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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult, if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if there's some things like paying our bills should not be out of bounds. i'll take one last question. >> mr. president, i would like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's long-standing, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to become a truism of sorts, that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been...
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that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be
that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this...
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if we want to have a conversation about how to redust our deficit let's have that. we've been having that nor the last two years. we just had an entire campaign about it. by the way the american people agreed with me that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way that takes into account the need for us to grow this economy. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager and cohost of the five. mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor. why do you think it was so testy yesterday? >> obama's best form is not necessarily a press conference which is why he does than do many of them. i which he was testy for one real reason. the republicans trying to take the full faith and crucify the united states currency and putting it at fist being. i'd invoke the 14th amendment, we'd problem below know that if we spent more time with the republicans wasting time on the floor of the house. i thought he ought to raise it and to hell with congress. martha: we talked to stewart varney and kirsten said in that sound byte, this isn't about default, pe
if we want to have a conversation about how to redust our deficit let's have that. we've been having that nor the last two years. we just had an entire campaign about it. by the way the american people agreed with me that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way that takes into account the need for us to grow this economy. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager and cohost of the five. mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor. why do you think it...
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. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to world war ii, fdr got together with the treasury secretary and set let's put a debt ceiling op and they started to borrow money. that amount in 1949 was $45 billion. today, $16.4 trillion. that is 46,400% higher. between 1939 and 1980, we never exceeded $1 trillion in debt. now we push $17 trillion. the problem with the sound bite is president obama was the guy
. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix...
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so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt
so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he...
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he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that is not what polling shows. it shows people want to get spending under control. >> sean: for a brief hour the obama media which did not go do a good job from my estimation woke up and challenged him. and looked angry on hypocrisy. how would you deal with the president that is very good at politics, demonizing and pushing republicans into a corner? what is the best strategy? >> well, i agree with you it's interesting. you had reporters saying wait a minute. you said just the opposite but also said the point just made a second ago which is why are you saying it's been straight a
he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that...
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they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents for all time -- >> neil: you would give a republican the same eye am going to save this tape. when it comes to that, i am going to have you back. >> hopefully, that won't be for a long time. >> neil: i thought you would say that, touche. >> okay. >> neil: from help out of d.c. to big doings in d.c., the city is getting readyr spiffy for a piece of history. the president's inauguration on monday. since january 20 falls on a sunday, the president will be privately sworn in that day. but the hoopla is all on monday, across the capitol. and we will be there again. probably n
they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents...
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we just looked at some of the president's numbers op deficit reduction. we'll talk about his news cop france today on that topic and the debt ceiling with the fox all-stars when we come back. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. if congressial republicans refuse to pay america's bills op time, social security checks and veteran benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops, or honor contracts with the small business owners. food inspeckors, air traffic controllers. specialist wos track down loose nuclear teles wouldn't get their paychecks. invesors around the world will ask i
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i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about. >> what should be the core elements of a u.s.-china relationship going forward? >> the core elements of a cooperative u.s.-chinese relationship is in many respects in the communique by presidents obama and jintao of china, itemizing and developing several ears to be koob rating because it sets a framework, a framework in which the word partnership is really given meaning and a framework for something unprecedented in the history of human affairs, namely, when two major powers arise, they almost never collide. for the first time in history, america and china have the opportunity to avoid that, to
i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about....
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we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public views it and how lawmakers will respond to the problem. always good to see you. happy new year. >> happy new year to you and your viewers. the debate is rapid fire as lawmakers weigh in on deadly weapons and our constitutional rights. >> the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get a assault weapon ban. >> taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. >> someone can walk into a wal-mart, buy a shopping cart full of ammunition, walk out, pay, no questions asked. >> shannon: very different views on an issue taking center stage. the
we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public...
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>> let me just say that the president has already sign into law about $2.4 trillion worth of deficit reduction and three-quarters of that -- >> wars we stopped fighting, already factored in. >> a bunch of that is for spending cuts. not necessarily spending cults i really -- cuts i like but spending cuts nonetheless. >> you disagree with him when he says we don't have a spending problem? >> no. i think we do have certain things we can cut in spending, but in fact right now, i think the crisis we have right now is a jobs crisis. i think it's an income inequality crisis in our country. i think there's an investment crisis. we don't talk enough, neil, about the third leg of debt reduction, which is not only spending, not only raising revenue, but growth in the economy. and you know? this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -
>> let me just say that the president has already sign into law about $2.4 trillion worth of deficit reduction and three-quarters of that -- >> wars we stopped fighting, already factored in. >> a bunch of that is for spending cuts. not necessarily spending cults i really -- cuts i like but spending cuts nonetheless. >> you disagree with him when he says we don't have a spending problem? >> no. i think we do have certain things we can cut in spending, but in fact...
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. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's why, you know, your show -- >> assault weapons ban. >> we've heard from the special interest groups, we're hearing from, you know, one end of the spectrum or that end of the spectrum, but in the end, our duly elected officials get together with an open mind and they then make decisions on behalf of the people they represent. that's where getting back to no labels is so important. you know, we've got the politics of right and left and center, but we've forgotten the most important part of all and that's the politics of problem solving. representing the people in all that we do. what we are doing today is not
. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's...
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. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and it's not a reduction in baseline, it's a reduction in the rate of growth of spending, which is again suffocating to the private economy and unsustainable over the course of the next several years. >> megyn: one thing we did hear the president reference personally, we heard it from nancy pelosi prior, but the president personally talking about now closing more loopholes and that means higher taxes. we don't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking for
. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and...
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they made a record come back in sunday's game against the falcons, overcoming a 17-0 deficit, beating the dirty birds 28-24. this will be the 49ers first super bowl since 1995. your time on this monday morning, 4:47, 32 degrees. a birthday party takes a deadly turn in prince george's county. latest >> in prince george's county, the search continues for the personal shot and killed a 15- year-old boy as he stepped outside a birthday party saturday night on webster lane in fort washington in the 7700 block. now more. >> the joy of celebrating a birthday party was shattered just before midnight in this fort washington neighborhood when a young man attending the event was gunned down. the 16-year-old marcus jones of fort washington was shot near his car soon after leaving the home. this person lives nearby and said that he heard the sound of gunfire. >> i had just got in the house five minutes and i heard a few shots and it sounded like gunfire. i went to the door and i heard a fourth shot. >> then he has said he thought 20 saw could of been the suspect running away. >> i have not seen dr
they made a record come back in sunday's game against the falcons, overcoming a 17-0 deficit, beating the dirty birds 28-24. this will be the 49ers first super bowl since 1995. your time on this monday morning, 4:47, 32 degrees. a birthday party takes a deadly turn in prince george's county. latest >> in prince george's county, the search continues for the personal shot and killed a 15- year-old boy as he stepped outside a birthday party saturday night on webster lane in fort washington...
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what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their motives. and he's not interested in forging bipartisan consensus on the debt, he's interesting in demonizing and dividing republicans and he's going to continue to do that in his second term. >> megyn: why would he be doing that, simon? >> i think it's called politics, megyn. i think what we expect out of our president, just like we expect out the republican party, is for them to fight as hard as they can for the things that they believe in. and to be -- and to make clear about what they believe the other side is doing, too. listen, i listened to rick santorum at the republican convention say that if
what's motivating and propelling the thousands republicans is more than simply deficit reduction, they are suspicious about government commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care and whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. that's an outrageous statement to begin with. on top of that that's not exactly a great way to forge bipartisan consensus. it o it's one thing to question your opponent's policies and another to question their...
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don't worry about it, it will work itself down the line and don't worry about the mounting debt and deficit. >> that's then and this is now. a debt as you pointed out 16.4 trillion dollars and rising constantly. we need a restraint on that debt. we cannot let it run away constantly. the and the debt ceiling is a restraint. what the democrats want is a blank check. i'm not sure it's constitutional because congress rules on the issue of money, not the executive branch. so, i'm not sure the constitutionality of it. if you did abolish this debt ceiling, you would pretty soon get yourself a downgrade. these rating agencies would say, your debt is just running away. you're not credit worthy. >> megyn: the debt ceiling is in place, it doesn't seem they trust our lawmakers to live within their moneys and with the money. when you look at 16.4 trillion, they're right, we're not living in our means. and there's a question, stu, you see that number, i think of my kids and think of my children. who is going to pay that number? it's probably not going to be me. >> right. >> megyn: it's probably going to
don't worry about it, it will work itself down the line and don't worry about the mounting debt and deficit. >> that's then and this is now. a debt as you pointed out 16.4 trillion dollars and rising constantly. we need a restraint on that debt. we cannot let it run away constantly. the and the debt ceiling is a restraint. what the democrats want is a blank check. i'm not sure it's constitutional because congress rules on the issue of money, not the executive branch. so, i'm not sure the...
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that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our bu
that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current...
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. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. >> reporter: in this press conference that was called last minute in the east room, president obama said he will negotiate a deal on deficit reduction but not, as he put it, quote, with a gun to the head of the american people. as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're
. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without...
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the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of critsims. one longstanding, another more recent. the longstanding one seems to become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular. that you don't socialize enough. and the second, more recent criticism that your team taking shape knit diverse, isn't as diverse as it could be or even was in terms of getting additional voices, gender, race, ethnic diversity. i would like you to address both of those. >> let me take the second one first. you know, i'm very proud in the first four years we had as di
the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second,...
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two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch. >> this is a statement we have gotten from the nra, national rifle association, part of the statement. we look forward to working with congress on a bipartisan basis to find real solutions to protecting america's most valuable asset, our children. attacking firearms and ignoring children is not a solution to the crisis we face as a nation, only honest, law abiding gun owners will be affected and our children will remain vulnerable to the inevitability of more tragedy. to the inevitability of more tragedy, john king, to the latter part of that statement, congress could enact everything that the president
two months, three months, four months and more if need be when he wants to do big things on debt and deficit, big things on medicare, comprehensive immigration reform, and will be in a fight with republicans over that? this is going to be a test of how long the president is prepared to wage what -- to get hard stuff done to get an assault weapons ban, to get the magazine clips, universal background check is easier, but the president has to dig in and fight and it will be fascinating to watch....
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>> and fitch has specifically said it's because they want a credible, credible deficit reduction plan, a solution, a long-term solution. bill: which they said last year too. martha: when you take a look at the twin title waves coming at us with medicare and with social security, until you deal with those and reform those programs and strengthen them for future generations we are not going to solve the problem. bill: senator, thank you for your time and being patient. john barrasso on the hill, republican from wyoming. >> thank you, bill. martha: let's go back to the scene where they are working to extricate this woman. that's a look at her hand. they are trying to get her out of there as carefully as they possibly can. they have no idea whether she was broken bones or in terrible damage. at this point they say she is conscious and speaking with them. they are working very hard to get her out. boy will she have a story to tell when they do. we'll be right back here with breaking news from "america's newsroom" from portland this morning. hi. i'm henry winkler. and i'm here to tell homeo
>> and fitch has specifically said it's because they want a credible, credible deficit reduction plan, a solution, a long-term solution. bill: which they said last year too. martha: when you take a look at the twin title waves coming at us with medicare and with social security, until you deal with those and reform those programs and strengthen them for future generations we are not going to solve the problem. bill: senator, thank you for your time and being patient. john barrasso on the...
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we have clear issues, as pat was alluding to, with the debt and the deficit. they're not solved and the debt ceiling, while it's an important hurdle and i don't want to default and i think the president is substantively is right, we can't be a totally polarized nation and nor can we pit one against the other and is sub zero see site. president clinton got a deal with newt gingrich, a different philosophy, he reached out across the aisle. we have to deal with entitlements, it's not a question of not wanting to take care of old people or poor people or feeding poor children, i think everybody believes we should. it's how and what extent and in what way can we afford it. bottom line, i thought the president's tone was unfortunate. he did it in the press conference right after the election, and i think that ultimately, it does the american people a disservice. >> kirsten, you read some the left wing pundits and they've had it with president obama in their view bending in these discussions with the left. they think, you know, he extended the bush tax cuts a couple
we have clear issues, as pat was alluding to, with the debt and the deficit. they're not solved and the debt ceiling, while it's an important hurdle and i don't want to default and i think the president is substantively is right, we can't be a totally polarized nation and nor can we pit one against the other and is sub zero see site. president clinton got a deal with newt gingrich, a different philosophy, he reached out across the aisle. we have to deal with entitlements, it's not a question of...
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the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop. >> let me say one thing, the shame of these picks is they small. they are inside the beltway, they are small, they are political hacks, where the president wanted to be a transformational president. he has been re-elected. not many presidents in history are two term presidents and he can be a successful president if he does something great. the great thing he could do for a liberal democrat, is save the social safety net from financial collapse. he had the chance to do it and he still has a chance. >> others would have brought some imagination. the opposite of reagan. >> gentleman, hang in here we will come ba
the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop....
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jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow up, you voted early, i was watching the board. you voted early. you didn't vote to see if it was going to pass and then vote no. was the idea that obama kind of lost some leverage there that you wanted to see it fail because obama now has to go back to the debt ceiling and he doesn't have the benefit of tax cuts looming? >> i knew it was going to pass. after the republicans walked away from the negotiations and then tried to plan b by speaker republican speaker bane thear failed where republicans wouldn't support t
jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow...
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in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are going to tell us that we will be downgraded. you have to have a discussion in the broader context. this is why the things are different when you talk about $17 billion in this particular mulvaney amendment. it is not a ton of number. in the context of $1.2 trillion debt. but you to have the discussions about the $17 billion. it's not out of line to suggest that a 1.6%be off-set is reasonable. >> bret: i will say one thing aboutbe the debt ceiling debate quickly. president obama yesterday and then jay carney back in 2011 two different takes but the same message. >> congressional republicans refuse to pay a
in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are...
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the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him spending a lot more time with members of congress. i think he brushed that aside when asked about it in a recent press conference. i think and you just had time with him, with the historians, but what i see in him is a man more confident, he's tougher, i think he's smarter politically, i think he's bolder. i'm not sure he's wiser in terms of how do you get things done in this city. that's where we'll have to let that play out. i think he may have a -- portrait of him in "the new york times" saying he's not only scarred but he has a smaller sense of what can be accomplished.
the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him...
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you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very aggressive cuts to services and earned benefits, you are not helping the economy grow. the jobs deficit, to me, is the biggest deficit we face. but we have a lot of other challenges. social security medicare are among bashar not among the most immediate challenges. if you ash social security and medicare are not among the most immediate challenges. we have paid some $15 trillion in payroll tax to take care of social security benefits. how much have we actually used in benefits received by all americans? $14 trillion. we have a one dollar trillion -- $1 trillion in cash. all the trillions of dollars we have paid t
you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very...
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ironically, it added to the deficit. it should not be surprising given all this talk that the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they overwhelmingly want us to create more jobs. let's finish this debate. the certainty that our economy and reputation are still second to none. america has a lot to do. we have to boost the wages of those who have -- we have to give our children the best education possible and we have to do everything we can to protect them from gun violence. let me say i am grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and for his proposals which i will be reviewing today and i will address the next few days. i intend to vigorously pursue. with that, i will take some questions and i will start with julie of a piece and i want to congratulate julie for this new and important job. >> i wanted to ask about gun violence. today marks the one-month anniversary of the shooting in newtown which seem to push the assault weapon ban.
ironically, it added to the deficit. it should not be surprising given all this talk that the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they overwhelmingly want us to create more jobs. let's finish this debate. the certainty that our economy and reputation are still second to none. america has a lot to do. we have to boost the wages of those who have -- we have to give our children the best education possible and we have to do everything we can...
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lowered the deficit to 1.4% of gdp in 2022, stabilize the debt by 2015. it even further reduced discretionary spending. it builds on health reform savings and called for social security reform, and provided specific things to do to get social security solvent for the next 75 years here and also include fundamental tax reform that raise revenue. and raised quite a bit of revenue, 2.4 trillion of that 5.4 trillion would have been revenue, but revenue not required raising rates, but revenue that would come through reforming the tax code, reducing preferences, exclusions that are shot through the tax code, to actually be able to reduce rates and raise additional revenue. for anybody that wanted can you really do that, remember tax expenditures are running $1.2 trillion a year. we are spending more for the tax code than we are through all of the appropriate accounts of the federal government. this is what happens to the deficit in the share of gdp under the fiscal commission plan. you can see a dramatic improvement. the fiscal cliff plan, and what was just ado
lowered the deficit to 1.4% of gdp in 2022, stabilize the debt by 2015. it even further reduced discretionary spending. it builds on health reform savings and called for social security reform, and provided specific things to do to get social security solvent for the next 75 years here and also include fundamental tax reform that raise revenue. and raised quite a bit of revenue, 2.4 trillion of that 5.4 trillion would have been revenue, but revenue not required raising rates, but revenue that...
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we have no sustainable deficit. you say on the order of 3% of gdp, we make tough choices to identify more than a trillion dollars in savings. two-thirds from spending reductions. where does the other third come from? as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that would reduce -- >> a significant portion does come from tax increases. >> a third. >> you have a statement about federal-billion pay freeze. i find this to be terribly disingenuous. when barack obama took office to now, we have 145,000 additional federal workers. to suggest pay has been frozen is not an accurate statement. their increases and bonuses and others, we've dramatically increased the federal payroll. the budget being proposed, when you say pay freeze, does that mean expenditures on payroll will go up or stay the same? >> it means people
we have no sustainable deficit. you say on the order of 3% of gdp, we make tough choices to identify more than a trillion dollars in savings. two-thirds from spending reductions. where does the other third come from? as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that...
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he's a liberal deficit hawk. he's got very strong views on the safety net and funding of government but he really does believe in doing what can be done to reduce deficits ?ee.'s coming at that time beginning of president obama's second term. second terms are rough. they eventually lead into lake duckery. people jump ship who are working for him. sew needs a strong group to handle the deficiencies that are inherent in a second term. you understand me? >> i understand. i think that's right. >> now, is lew the guy that can do this for him? can he protect him and keep him alive in the sense of politically alive, of course, and keep him vibrant as president? >> look, up to a degree, he can do that. but ultimately still most of the major policy is at the desk of the president. when he said that he was the man who was responsible for three surpluses under bill clinton, let me tell you, bill clinton had three different programs to reduce the budget deficit and bring about that. so it was a presidential decision. it's no
he's a liberal deficit hawk. he's got very strong views on the safety net and funding of government but he really does believe in doing what can be done to reduce deficits ?ee.'s coming at that time beginning of president obama's second term. second terms are rough. they eventually lead into lake duckery. people jump ship who are working for him. sew needs a strong group to handle the deficiencies that are inherent in a second term. you understand me? >> i understand. i think that's...
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he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this whole issue on "cbs this morning" and i'll read you what he said. "it isn't a smart fight for congressional republicans to pick, because in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default, no one will allow the united states to not pay its bills, no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side." so even newt gingrich says this isn't a wise fight to pick. you may feel strongly about spending cuts but this isn't the right time to fight. >> when is the right time? when is the right time? bec
he promised to pay down the deficit at least half in his first term. the first two years of his first term he had a democratic congress house and senate. he could have done anything he wanted. instead he put through an $800 billion stimulus bill and a $1.7 trillion obama care. if he wasn't going to address it then, when is he going to address it? he is essentially holding congress hostage right now and the american people with these scare tactics. >> okay, newt gingrich addressed this...
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we need to reduce the deficit. but, if we are going to grow the economy and get people back to work, we must invest in the future. i wanted to acknowledgement fact that the budget does reduce the deficit by $1.10 trillion. that is real money for most of us. and it is not easy to get there. bringing fiscal stability to the nation in 2017, her primary balance, none of this is easy. the budget does make strategic investments in the future. for many of us in our districts across the country, the focus on energy and evasion of education and infrastructure is important. every business i talked to said to me that we need, we look at, or locate incentives for innovation. do we have what we need to move our products and work force? is there an educated work force? they want to know -- and it starts with -- where is the infrastructure and advantage for innovation? i think we need to talk about that, because otherwise we're just looking at slash and burn, cut spending right now. the budget deficit commission said not a good i
we need to reduce the deficit. but, if we are going to grow the economy and get people back to work, we must invest in the future. i wanted to acknowledgement fact that the budget does reduce the deficit by $1.10 trillion. that is real money for most of us. and it is not easy to get there. bringing fiscal stability to the nation in 2017, her primary balance, none of this is easy. the budget does make strategic investments in the future. for many of us in our districts across the country, the...
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we have a training deficit in this country. we need to combine training programs and do a better job. are we going to hurt that effort? that's what's at stake here when the republicans say, just cut regardless. they had no reason to remember yesterday to cut all discretionary notary public defense discretionary programs, and i think sadly a hundred and some republicans, i think, 50 voted for willie-nilly across the board. doesn't matter what it is. that's not the way we proceed. >> host: was this the amendment to the sandy relief bill? >> guest: it was. >> host: and it failed, 70 republicans joined about 188 democrats to beat back that amendment put forth. on the tax side of the ledger, deductions and loopholes is what folks are talking about. when you say "balanced approach qtle, spending cuts, and deductions and loopholes and things like that. what are the big ones that would bring in the most revenue? >> guest: well, we've talked about the itemized deductions and they include mortgage interests, charitable contributions, ect
we have a training deficit in this country. we need to combine training programs and do a better job. are we going to hurt that effort? that's what's at stake here when the republicans say, just cut regardless. they had no reason to remember yesterday to cut all discretionary notary public defense discretionary programs, and i think sadly a hundred and some republicans, i think, 50 voted for willie-nilly across the board. doesn't matter what it is. that's not the way we proceed. >> host:...
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president obama has racked up more spending, $1 trillion deficits. and it's time that he join us in this effort to get our fiscal house in order. what is a drag on the economy is the spending. that is what is hurting hard-working taxpayer right now. and so we need him to join us in this effort. >> at the end of the day, this is going to be a question about public opinion. what makes you think talking about not raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government, what have you, is a winner in the court of public opinion? >> well, again, we don't want to shut down the government, but in the court of public opinion, people also know that the federal government and the out of control spending is unsustainable. and large majorities of the american people want us to cut spending, to start making the tough decisions, to balance our budgets, start living within our means. the american people, in their own families, they understand that you have to do that. you have to make the tough decisions. you have to get your budget, you've got to put it in order.
president obama has racked up more spending, $1 trillion deficits. and it's time that he join us in this effort to get our fiscal house in order. what is a drag on the economy is the spending. that is what is hurting hard-working taxpayer right now. and so we need him to join us in this effort. >> at the end of the day, this is going to be a question about public opinion. what makes you think talking about not raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government, what have you, is a...
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it is the congress decides how big the deficit will be but the president has to work with congress. we need more revenue and we need to drive down spending. i think the president understands that and he is working on this but he cannot do this alone. >> looking forward to the next four years, do you see an america that is retreating? >> i see an american -- an america that is moving to asia. the america they are focusing on asia but have not forgotten about europe and our new allies, and this is an america that is still concerned about issues in the middle east and other parts of the world. but america cannot do everything for everybody. if you think america will become isolationist, that will not happen. >> the world has such high expectations for this president. his single biggest problem was said to be high expectations. >> does any politician ever meet all of the campaign expectations. you come in with an agenda and you do the best that you can. you will succeed on some issues and you will not succeed and there will be a tie on some issues. and the president understands with the
it is the congress decides how big the deficit will be but the president has to work with congress. we need more revenue and we need to drive down spending. i think the president understands that and he is working on this but he cannot do this alone. >> looking forward to the next four years, do you see an america that is retreating? >> i see an american -- an america that is moving to asia. the america they are focusing on asia but have not forgotten about europe and our new...
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he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades. poverty going up because of the recession. it's a big problem in the country. we had the flight of manufacturing jobs until recently. there's a bit of a turn around there. it seems to me president obama's biggest priority should not be the deficit. it should be restoring shared economic growth. yes, we need to do something about the long term deficit. i think the big argument is going to be between people who want to argue that the whole deal is deficit reduction. let's spend all our time putting on our green eye shades and talking these numbers. ezra will be excellent in desc
he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades....
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make the hard choices to reduce the cost of healthcare and size of the deficit. we reject that they must choose between caring that built the country. >> like every president since fdr, mr. obama started his day early, with a prayer service at st. john's church. before departing the white house for the longest motorcades known to man for the rise to the capital. a star-studded affair. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem. >> the ceremony was over there was a stream of pomp and circumstance waiting. >> from signing papers to officially nominate the new cabinet to lunch with congressional leaders. then, of course, the parade. the first family could make the way back to the white house in that grand bulletproof review stand. yet all of that could wait because leaving the west front of the capitol, the president went off script to take in the vista of the national mall. mr. obama seemed to be taking in the moment. overheard saying he would never quite see this view again. as the president is set to sell th
make the hard choices to reduce the cost of healthcare and size of the deficit. we reject that they must choose between caring that built the country. >> like every president since fdr, mr. obama started his day early, with a prayer service at st. john's church. before departing the white house for the longest motorcades known to man for the rise to the capital. a star-studded affair. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem....
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it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it should be about that. we're going to discuss it later in the show. the idea about why we don't have budgets, how we can fix that. senator, thanks for the time to talk to us, we hope we can talk to you more in coming weeks. >> have a great day. >> senator johnson is a republican from wisconsin. he is on the senate budget committee. the fiscal cliff nan senonsense fiscal cliff and the exploding debt. how did we get here? >> we haven't had one in almost four years. >> i could end the deficit in five minutes. >> how? >> you pass a law that says that an
it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it...
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combines tough spending cuts with the balanced way to row deuce the deficit -- to reduce the deficit that, of course, includes revenue. includes asking the wealthiest americans in particular to pay their fair share. >> we have been on that issue and the republicans say that issue is behind us when it comes to taxs. >> take a look at what is in the package in terms of spending. additional savings from medicare and medicaid in it. savings from agricultural sub is sidis. the president already signed a trillion dollars of deficit reduction into law and committed to more spending cuts but we can't just cut our way to prosperity. we have toasting to invest in things like -- we have to continue to invest in things like education and energy. he put reducing the deficit in a balanced way to promote jobs for middle class families and that is going to be his guiding principle through the negotiations. >> i want to ask you quickly about the republican idea. would you support it but with the caveat they are telling the senate you haven't passed a budget in more than three years and you need to do
combines tough spending cuts with the balanced way to row deuce the deficit -- to reduce the deficit that, of course, includes revenue. includes asking the wealthiest americans in particular to pay their fair share. >> we have been on that issue and the republicans say that issue is behind us when it comes to taxs. >> take a look at what is in the package in terms of spending. additional savings from medicare and medicaid in it. savings from agricultural sub is sidis. the president...
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deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he struck back room deals with hospitals, with special interests, and now he's saying republicans are being reckless? no, no. at some point it becomes more reckless to continue raising the debt ceiling without having democrats come forward with a budget, by the president of the united states, coming forward with a plan to save medicare, medicaid, and social security. we had erskine bowles on. he was very clear. steve ratner agrees. zeke emanuel agrees. democrats, good democrats, agree. that medicare and medic
deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he...
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the great deficit in this country is the investment deficit, the investment in people and infrastructure. there were attempts to revive it. it was a super committee proposal. i think it is a good thing the super committee failed to reach an agreement. we will see where that goes. it was not a fair deal. there was so little revenue and so much padding. -- so much cutting. someone was writing the other day that the anti-tax mania is at an all-time low. reagan was willing to raise taxes. it shows how extreme. someone said the of the grover norquist may be the most powerful person in america. the new pledge he has held canada is to. he has held candidates -- the new pledge he has held the new candidates to is keeping millions -- it has a role to play in a country rich in the land grant colleges, highways, bridges. i understand the bridge out here is about to be built. i am all for infrastructure. >> obama in a way has to be the luckiest politician. if you look at the republican lineup -- [laughter] it is like michael dukakis in an oversized tank hat. >> the idea that newt gingrich is now at
the great deficit in this country is the investment deficit, the investment in people and infrastructure. there were attempts to revive it. it was a super committee proposal. i think it is a good thing the super committee failed to reach an agreement. we will see where that goes. it was not a fair deal. there was so little revenue and so much padding. -- so much cutting. someone was writing the other day that the anti-tax mania is at an all-time low. reagan was willing to raise taxes. it shows...
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so if you are trully a deficit buster, you will be for it. not going to happen. >> i will argue the mathematics. morgan we knew we would inch our way into it. isn't that happening? that obama care we saw passed a couple of years ago is the beginning of full-blown government take over. >> it is unlikely that the public option will happen. i will jump on the idea of funky mathematics for a second. this 100 billion plus number that is thrown around is from a cvo report . then in 2010, the number was 68 billion dollars . yeah, two different programs and that is a big issue with the public option. there is so many ifs and whether it would make money or lose money and whether subsidies would be involved. >> mike, when government takes something over, doesn't it get more expensive and burrcratic than it was in the private sector? >> this is what happened with other countries that tried universal health care. canada, you can wait for a year for knee surgery . go to amtrak run by the government they are bankrupt without a big subsidy . you look at oba
so if you are trully a deficit buster, you will be for it. not going to happen. >> i will argue the mathematics. morgan we knew we would inch our way into it. isn't that happening? that obama care we saw passed a couple of years ago is the beginning of full-blown government take over. >> it is unlikely that the public option will happen. i will jump on the idea of funky mathematics for a second. this 100 billion plus number that is thrown around is from a cvo report . then in 2010,...